Vlada and Alexey have been together for five years, legally married for the third year, and for the third year they have been living with their mother-in-law - saving for an apartment.
This decision was not easy for Vlada at the time. Nevertheless, she decided to take the risk. Firstly, they are all well-mannered, intelligent people, and they probably won’t stoop to spitting in each other’s teapots. Secondly, the mother-in-law’s apartment is spacious, there is plenty of space, you won’t have to sit on each other’s heads, and therefore there shouldn’t be any special conflicts. Well, and most importantly, this is not forever. If they save a certain amount per month, after three years they will have a down payment and will be able to think about their own home.
It’s possible to endure for three years, especially when there is something for the sake of it. And renting an apartment, paying money month after month to nothing, is a dead end...

The young couple moved in with their mother, and at first they lived quite tolerably. The guys worked, came home only to spend the night, mom ran the house, didn’t interfere with the young family, and the savings went at a brisk pace. Vlada was only happy with how great they came up with, and sincerely did not understand who was making up these stupid stories about mothers-in-law and daughters-in-law. And then suddenly pregnancy happened. The young couple planned to have a child in principle, but a little later - first they wanted to resolve the issue of housing. But since this happened, we decided to give birth. My mother-in-law was the loudest advocate for this - they say, as long as we live together, I will help. This idea seemed logical. Vlada will give birth, sit with the baby for a while, and then start working, gradually leaving the baby to her grandmother, and they will get back on schedule. Three years will stretch, maybe 4-5, but it doesn’t matter. They will break through!

Only bad luck - since Vlada went on maternity leave, the relationship between the two women, which was quite good at first, for some reason began to deteriorate before our eyes. And the further it goes, the worse it gets. The child is now a little over a year old, and the house is hell and a nightmare.

The mother-in-law is impatiently waiting for her son to return from work, complains to him about his daughter-in-law and is sure that he simply must rein in “this impudent person.”
“The child is without socks, the window is open,” the mother lists the daughter-in-law’s sins. - And by the way, he was coughing all night today!.. He sits alone on the floor all day, and my mother shares her experience with us on the Internet... And what an experience! The child is one year old, he doesn’t speak and doesn’t know what a potty is! Where has this been seen... Our children at this age already ate themselves, recited poems, went to the toilet... Because we didn’t have the Internet... We are free from everything, I cook, the machine does the laundry, the vacuum cleaner cleans ... He won’t wash the cup after himself... And at the same time, not taking care of the child - well, that’s already a thing! Not at any gate!

Alexey absentmindedly listens to this entire stream and automatically nods his head. Vlada perceives her husband’s behavior as cowardice and betrayal. The husband does not see any problem in Vlada’s actions towards the baby, but does not want to quarrel with the mother. But he could have protected his wife. Say, don’t interfere, this is OUR family and OUR child. Well, at least, at worst, change the conversation to another topic, and not listen to all this nonsense. But he is silent, and the mother-in-law works herself up more and more, confident that her son listens to her carefully and supports her.

If only you had said that you didn’t want to listen to this! - Vlad cries later in his room. - Why does she think I’m a bad mother??? I do everything for my baby, read to him, play with him, walk every day, breastfed... tell her! Well, it’s impossible, all day with a child! Do I really not have the right to rest for half an hour when the child is busy or sleeping? And I cook... sometimes. And I always wash the dishes!..
- Oh, figure it out yourself! - Alexey brushes aside his wife’s complaints. - These are your women's affairs!.. I know that you are a good mother. But what do you want from me? So that I can also quarrel with my mother? Life will become completely unbearable. We are in her house, she does a lot for us. And he cooks, at least sometimes, and sits with the child. Then, she wants what’s best for her grandson, first of all. Well, don't pay attention!..

My husband categorically does not want to move to a rented apartment now. Rent prices have gone up, it’s very difficult to rent with a child, and you don’t want to drag your baby around other people’s bedbugs. Moreover, here the area is inhabited, and the clinic is wonderful, and the pediatrician at the site is simply a magician, she even treated Alyosha as a child. And the savings, with my mother’s help, are somehow going on, although not as quickly as I would like, but this is already good. After the New Year holidays, Vlada plans to go to work, the child will be with his grandmother, so it’s impossible to move out now. It’s scary to take out a mortgage immediately; you still need to save up. Well, in the end, we endured so much - it’s stupid to be offended now and give up everything halfway.
Vlada understands all this, and in general agrees to be patient - but on the condition that Alexey tries to protect Vlada from criticism and attacks.

Should Alexei put his mother in her place? How can I support Vlad? Slam your fist on the table and resolutely say that this is my family - don’t interfere? Well, or at least not knock, but have a good conversation, make it clear that he will not allow his wife to be scolded?
Or consider mom’s point of view; after all, they are in her house?
Or is it no good for a man to sort out women’s conflicts? Let them reconcile themselves, and Alexey is right that he doesn’t interfere with all his might?
If moving out is not an option, what is the best option?
What do you think?

We have been together for 6 years. We have one child together, and my daughter is from my first marriage. This is to characterize the family) I have always respected and still respect my husband’s personal space, interests, I am interested in his hobbies.. I have always treated his friends well. Not once did I allow myself to say anything bad. I grew up in a family where dad respected mom, and mom respected dad, was his support and support, his dignity! , especially friends.
Recently it happened that his close friend at our wedding... hit me in the face. I’m not a stupid person, I tried to get away from the conflict, I simply disappeared, spoke, calmed down...translated topics to avoid conflict...since this is a friend of my loved one...and I didn’t want anything bad for anyone..I tried to convey to my husband that he tries to pinch you on the cheek, to slap you in the face. But my words were ignored, and in the end they accused me of this..... It was a year ago that the marriage was officially registered there, and to this day they asked me for forgiveness.. and another friend, after a while, insulted me in public and disrupted my daughter’s christening, where he had to, at his own request, be godfather...
The model of behavior taken from his father was revealed just recently and he has never been a protector of the family and his woman. I dreamed that it was important to me how to save my family. I love this person, I appreciate and know what he is capable of at times...was... I do not limit meetings with friends. I appreciate, respect, and even share his interests.
Belgorodsky is trying to talk to him, tell him how I feel from these moments. Not blaming me, but asking me to understand how painful it is, I’m scared... What if this is the attitude towards me, then they don’t respect him either... they don’t want to hear and understand me... he’s happy with everything... It’s scary that when choosing between friends and me - they will not choose me, they will not protect me, they will not help me...
I want to save the relationship. Because I love, I appreciate everything that we built this way for a long time... I don’t misbehave in everything, I didn’t spoil him... I put it where it was needed and vice versa, I understood his desires without limiting. How can I make him defend my honor and even more so his own...
I'm pretty, active and sociable... not a blue stocking, an interesting person... and not a knucklehead who watches her husband in fear of betrayal... Doing nothing else... a complex with legs.
How to reach? explain... So that they protect me and don’t look at me as painful, insulting... I don’t take over men’s responsibilities... without humiliating my libido, etc. They bat their eyelashes and eat with happiness that he has golden hands when he gets to do something... Although I can do a lot. He has the support and respect of his family. She put a lot of her energy into improving their relationship with the child from another marriage.
I don’t forget to remind him of his responsibilities as a man, a head, a person who must secure housing for his offspring at least...
Everything is falling apart terribly.. conversations do not bring understanding.. he says that he loves, he cannot live.. etc..
But..my powers are not endless... And I have pride.. what to do... what to do... is there a chance to change something... at a dead end

“There should be no one closer than husband and wife”

On the role of mother-in-law and mother-in-law

In a previous conversation with Archpriest Vladimir Parkhomenko, we talked about what the hierarchy should be in a family and how not to raise a child to be an egoist. Today we will talk about such serious and often unshakable family members as mother-in-law and mother-in-law, about how they should act in relation to a young family and how the family should react to their intervention.

Limit interference

— Father Vladimir, in Russian folk tradition there are a lot of jokes associated with mothers-in-law and mothers-in-law. And these jokes are sometimes quite bitter. We have to admit that when we get married, our mothers, for all their good intentions, sometimes have a destructive effect on our family. How should our dear parents behave so as not to harm us in marriage?

“The Bible says: let the husband separate from his mother and cleave to his wife.” Since we are talking about Christian family building, everything here should be very simple: the husband left his parents and clung to his wife. In the same way, a wife must cleave to her husband, become part of him, half of him.

As soon as the family was created, the ship went to sea. This is an independent unit. And what's the problem? The fact that not everyone immediately perceives it as such is well known from family psychology. As a rule, for at least three years, neither the wife's parents nor the husband's parents perceive them as a family. For them, he is still their Kolya, their Masha. And some Sasha stuck to her, and to Kolya - "This Lena is a fool" which " ruins his life...

A lot of different personalities are superimposed on this scheme. For example, the wife's mother may be overly active, and the husband's father may be too domineering. There are many options, but in each of them the task of both the husband and wife in a young family is to protect their own family, their ship that has just put to sea from those ropes that parents are trying to throw on board in order to moor it.

— How to protect? You can't throw your parents overboard. And we love them, as a rule...

— Limit their interference. I’m not going to tell you all the ins and outs of my personal family experience, but I assure you - we are an ordinary family, we have nothing ideal. All the problems that everyone had, we experienced and went through on our own skin.

A husband must protect not only his wife, but his own family from his parents. When mom starts to pick on her brains - yes, she is like this, she is like that - wisdom is simply needed here. On the one hand, you need not to offend your own mother, on the other hand, you need to bury everything that she poured out on you. You don’t need to be a repeater, you need to be such a good “swamp” in which everything drowns. Because it will be extremely difficult for your own spouse to perceive criticism addressed to you, relayed by you.

Husband and wife are one. There should be no one closer and dearer. And if a husband begins to express to his wife a claim that his mother expresses to him, this is extremely offensive for the wife. She feels that she is losing protection, losing in him the one who, in principle, should protect her. The same is true vice versa. Therefore, this is the primary task of young people - to protect their family from outside influences.

Moreover, I will say that when we marry people, we always warn them that in family relationships there is such a law: as soon as you become husband and wife, you should not tell anyone anything at all about your family relationships. So mom asks: how’s it going? “Everything is fine mom, everything is fine...”

— But mom won’t give up so easily. She’s interested, she’ll start asking further questions.

- And you continue to lull her vigilance - “everything is fine mom, don’t worry...” All of this needs to be blocked. You cannot allow someone to get involved in your relationship, even under a plausible pretext - this is the law. If your parents, as well as numerous relatives, get used to this at the first stage, then they will stop bothering you altogether.

— It’s probably hard for moms to get used to it right away. It is difficult to part with a child. It may begin to seem that your own son, whom you raised for twenty years, is moving away from you. Or maybe he’s already fallen out of love altogether “because of this stupid Lena”...

“There should be no rivalry here, no selfish attachment.” You need to be able to let go of your son or daughter. So what if I raised you for twenty years? Now I've already grown it. Don't keep it to yourself all your life.

As for good relationships, if they were between mother and son or mother and daughter, if they were truly close people, then they will remain so even at a distance.

In general, the most reliable remedy against all problems is to resettle the young, as has always been the case. In Rus', young people were always resettled; they always immediately had their own housing. What was it like in Russian villages? They are preparing for the wedding - they are building a house for the newlyweds. Or, at the very least, some kind of outbuilding is added, or at worst, a separate room is allocated. Just a separate one that they wouldn’t go into.

You understand what separate living means for a young family. Therefore, if you don’t have your own separate housing, but there is the slightest opportunity to rent a house, this is very important in the first stages of family life. And if this does not work out, then greater wisdom is simply needed here. It must be taken into account that living together will bring more difficulties into a joint relationship.

Don't drive into a corner

— You speak — no need to relay negativity. But it happens that the husband tries not to relay, but the wife still feels that his mother does not love her. She becomes offended and insults his mother in front of him. Then he becomes offended - this is his mother, he cannot tolerate insults towards her even from his beloved wife. How can we be here? Many people stumble over this tangle of contradictions and mutual grievances...

- This is already the wife’s mistake. There is a very simple thing here - in our lives there are certain statuses, and the commandment "honor your father and mother" no one canceled. And the wife must understand that she cannot provoke her husband to violate this commandment. Because it is basically a religious thing and he will be forced to react to it.

And even if you have become a family, no one can cancel this commandment. Even if the parents died, no one cancels it, because then you should honor how? Pray for the repose of your parents. Therefore, no matter what kind of mother-in-law she is, the wife cannot provoke her husband. She understands perfectly well that there is, for example, a commandment - "Thou shalt not commit adultery." A normal woman would not think of provoking her husband to violate this commandment. It’s not possible here either. It's simple math.

At one time, Vladyka Evgeniy, rector of the Moscow Theological Academy, gave a good example. He said that you should never drive a person into a corner. Because if you drive a person into a corner, he has only one way out of this situation - to hit you in the forehead and move on. There are no other options...

— By the way, about the forehead. I know cases when quite calm, loving husbands raised their hands against their wives for making inappropriate statements about their mothers. I don’t condone this in any way, but I understand that it’s out of powerlessness.

- Of course, what options remain? You put a person in a position in which he should not be put. This is a gross mistake, you can’t do this. We must repent and correct our life in this sense.

— Now half of the readers will think that we condone domestic violence...

- Nothing like this. The husband also needs to repent for not restraining himself. Everyone must repent for their own.

— And if the mother-in-law doesn’t like her daughter-in-law for some reason, should the daughter-in-law try to earn her sympathy? Should I try to please her?

“I don’t think there’s any need to deserve it specially.” The task of the daughter-in-law in this case is to be critical of herself and the claims expressed by her mother-in-law. If she does not see any real guilt in herself; if she is not insolent to her mother-in-law, if she is not rude, if, in a word, she “doesn’t like” the moral component in this, then there is no need to do anything.

Why might her husband’s mother not like a girl? The reasons can be the most seemingly funny. For example, I came across the following things: for example, my mother-in-law scolds her for being slow. The mother-in-law is fast, and she is slow. And now my mother-in-law begins to irritate her - "this chicken does everything slowly, crawls there..."

Here we see carnal relationships, this is pure physiology. That is, she doesn’t like her daughter-in-law not because she is a bad person. She doesn’t like her qualities, her some purely physiological characteristics. There is no need to play any role or try to remake yourself. There is no reason for change here. You just need to humbly, in a Christian manner, bear this cross, especially since it is not the heaviest. Well, I don't like it and I don't like it. Take this as a given.

It will pass with time, I assure you. Life is a marathon. A few years will pass and everything will change. The hardest thing is the initial period of family life, because a family is not perceived as a family.

— And if there is a moral component to the mother-in-law’s antipathy, should you try to change yourself?

- Yes, sure. If you see that you were harsh or behaved tactlessly, then correct yourself. But not for the sake of being liked, but in a Christian way. Strive for spiritual perfection and that’s it. Correct yourself not for your mother-in-law’s sake, but for your own sake. There is no need to do something special to yourself for the sake of someone. As Seraphim of Sarov said: save yourself and thousands around you will be saved. This is a rule for all time, for life.

Newspaper "Saratov Panorama" No. 44 (1023)

I think that each of us expects that a loved one will take our side and protect us. But for some reason my husband does exactly the opposite. There may be several reasons:

1. Perhaps he has accumulated irritation and anger towards you, which he cannot express directly, but when an opportunity arises, he gladly joins your offenders.
2. Are you always “innocent”? Perhaps he just wants to be on the side of truth, and nothing personal. And you expect protection from him, no matter what.
3. Do you come to his defense when your voice is needed? If not, then it's probably mutual.
4. If this happens often, then this may be a symptom that in your relationship both of you are deeply dissatisfied with something and it’s time to change something.
But this can only be understood through your dialogue with your husband, asking him, without blaming, what is happening? What don't you like? Explaining what you expect from him (protection, etc.) and asking what he thinks about this. If your husband does not make contact, then it is possible to find out through a conversation with a psychologist who can give recommendations specifically for your family situation.

Sincerely,
psychologist Irina Shashkova

Hello! Please help with advice or references to literature. I'm faced with a situation in which I don't know how to help. Please tell me, should a husband defend his wife if she is offended (by word or deed in his presence or without him), and the wife is not to blame? And how to react correctly in a Christian way, in order to bring the offender to reason and to support his wife? I myself think that I should, and if my husband doesn’t immediately know how to say it correctly, then I think, after all, it doesn’t matter, I should tell the offender somehow gently that after all, the offender is wrong. Help me please. Catherine.

Archpriest Mikhail Samokhin answers:

Hello, Ekaterina!

The Holy Scripture sees the relationship between Christ and the Church as an image of the relationship between husband and wife. The Lord laid down his soul for His Church, so a husband must be ready to defend his wife. From your letter it is not at all clear the situation in which such protection is necessary. Therefore, visit the nearest temple and personally consult with a priest who, having delved into the specific details, will be able to give you effective advice.

Sincerely, Archpriest Mikhail Samokhin.